Με επιστολή προς τον ΣΥΡΙΖΑ και τον Αλέξη Τσίπρα ο δημοσιογράφος της Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Μίκαελ Μάρτινς, αποκαλύπτει την ερώτηση που προκάλεσε τη διακοπή της συνέντευξης του με τον Αλέξη Τσίπρα.
Σύμφωνα με τον Μάρτινς η ερώτηση που προκάλεσε την οργή Τσίπρα και οδήγησε στον άτακτο τερματισμό της συνέντευξης ήταν η εξής:
"Τον Ιούνιο του 2012 είπατε ότι το ΠΑΣΟΚ και η ΝΔ υπέστειλαν την ελληνική σημαία και την παρέδωσαν στην Άνγκελα Μέρκελ. Μπορείτε να μας πείτε τί σημαίνει αυτό;".
Σύμφωνα πάντα με την επιστολή του Μάρτινς, ο κ. Τσίπρας απάντησε ότι δεν μπορεί να θυμηθεί αν έκανε τέτοια δήλωση, μετά ισχυρίστηκε ότι "ποτέ" δεν είπε κάτι τέτοιο και μετά τελείωσε τη συνέντευξη, λέγοντάς του ότι οι προθέσεις του δεν ήταν υγιείς και πως δεν είναι ευγενικός.
Στην επιστολή του ο δημοσιογράφος προσθέτει το λινκ με το βίντεο όπου φαίνεται ο κ. Τσίπρας να κάνει όντως τη δήλωση περί σημαίας: (στο 15'03")
Ο γερμανός δημοσιογράφος τονίζει στην επιστολή του ότι στηρίχτηκε στο site του ΣΥΡΙΖΑ για να υποβάλλει τις ερωτήσεις στον κ. Τσίπρα και αντικρούει όσα του καταλογίζει το κόμμα της αξιωματικής αντιπολίτευσης για χρήση "φημών, δηλώσεων τρίτων προσώπων και ανεπιβεβαίωτων πληροφοριών".
Αυγή: Ενόχλησε το αλαζονικό ύφος
Δημοσίευμα στην Αυγή δέινει την απάντηση της Κουμουνδούρου για το επεισόδιο με τον Μάρτινς. Όπως σημειώνει η εφημερίδα αυτό ποιυ ενόχλησε τον κ. Τσίπρα δεν ήταν οι ερωτήσεις αλλά το ιταμό και αλαζονικό ύφος του δημοσιογράφου της FAΖ.
Ο κ. Μάρτενς μάλιστα έφτασε να χαρακτηρίσει "φασιστικό κόμμα" τους Ανεξάρτητους Έλληνες.
Μετά τη διακοπή της συνέντευξης, ο ίδιος έστειλε απολογητικό μέιλ και ζήτησε από τον Τσίπρα να απαντήσει στις ερωτήσεις του. Η άρνηση του αρχηγού της αξιωματικής αντιπολίτευσης δεν ήταν φυσικά κάποιο πείσμα, αλλά θέμα στοιχειώδους αυτοσεβασμού και σεβασμού του θεσμικού του ρόλου.
Αν οι Γερμανοί δημοσιογράφοι έχουν μάθει να φέρονται έτσι στους ψοφοδεείς μνημονιακούς που μας κυβερνούν, πρέπει να μάθουν ότι αυτά στον ΣΥΡΙΖΑ δεν περνάνε, σημειώνει η Αυγή η οποία μάλιστα δημοσιεύει και ένα βίντεο-απόσπασμα τοποθέτησης του κ. Μάρτινς σε εκδήλωση του Ινστιτούτου Καραμανλή, πέρυσι τον Ιούνιο.
Στο απόσπασμα ο κ. Μάρτενς αναφέρει: "(...) αν ρωτήσεις 5 οικονομολόγους θα έχεις έξι απόψεις και πάντα θα βρεις έναν οικονομολόγο να παρουσιάσει ως εύλογο οτιδήποτε, ακόμα και ο κ. Τσίπρας πιθανότητα θα βρει ακαδημαϊκούς που θα βρουν τις ιδέες του λογικές, ίσως όχι στην Ευρώπη, αλλά στο πανεπιστήμιο της Αβάνας ή της Πιονγκ Γιανγκ, θα βρει ανθρώπους που πιστεύουν ότι έχει μια λογική οικονομική πολιτική".
Ολόκληρη η επιστολή Μάρτινς
Istanbul, July 25th 2013
Dear Mr. Tsipras, Dear Mrs. Badogianni,
I hope this message finds you well. I have seen that "Avgi" has published their version of the "interview" between FAZ and Mr. Tsipras. We will publish our interpretation of the events in our Sunday's edition and in some additional stories to follow in the days after it.
As you, Mrs. Badogianni, will play a role as well in the story – first with your telephone interventions after the interview and then with the letter you emailed to my editor today, which he immediately forwarded to me - I wanted to ask you whether you want to comment on your version of the events.
I have prepared some questions which you may answer on the record if you wish so.
Since Syriza decided to leak their version of the events to "Avgi", I take the liberty to add some Greek and German friends and colleagues who might be interested in the case as Bcc in this Email.
1. After the interview, you called journalists from "Kathimerini" and myself, asking me whether I met Mr. Papachelas or any other colleague from "Kathimerini" to prepare my questions. Even though it is none of your business whom I meet to prepare an interview, I assured you several times that I never in my life met Mr. Papachelas. Then you asked me: "Are you sure you did not meet with any other colleague from Kathimerini?" So my first question is: Do you find it normal that the person in charge of press affairs of the opposition leader in an EU member state, after an interview that was broken off by the interviewee, is calling journalists and urges them to reveal whom they have or have not met before the interview?
2. More precisely: Do you consider it normal that you call a foreign correspondent to interrogate him about whom he spoke with to prepare his questions?
3. Do you consider it normal that you, as press attaché of the leader of the Greek opposition, ask Greek journalists whether they spoke to a foreign journalist before an interview with Mr. Tsipras?
4. Regarding your Email to the editor of "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" from today (July 24th) which you titled: „Written complaint on behalf of Alexis Tsipras concerning the broken off interview with FAZ on 19.07.2013". In this Email you, in the name of Mr. Tsipras, claim that I went "way beyond the journalistic working ethics" and used „rumours, statements of third persons and information taken without double-checking" as a basis for my questions and thus was unprofessional and even on the level of "yellow press" ("Klatschpresse").
You probably understand, that those are serious allegations against a journalist who depends on his reputation. So I would be very grateful if, regarding these allegations, you would be so kind as to answer my following questions:
a) Is the cartoon of Adolf Hitler calling Angela Merkel (published in "Avgi", on April 14th) to which I refereed in my first and second question of the interview a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking"?
b) In my third question I asked whether Mr. Tsipras believes that all the talk about today's Germany being the "fourth Reich", wanting to "colonize" Greece etc. is really the kind of language that European leaders in 2013 should use. To this, Mr. Tsipras answered that "neither Syriza nor Avgi" have ever uttered those kinds of statements. Is it in your view a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking" to point out – as one example of many – to an article by "Avgi" dated 20.07.2013 with the title "Gauleiter Schauble supports his students..." (author Dimitris Stoumbos, link) below http://www.avgi.gr/article/653893/o-gkaoulaiter-soimple-stirizei-tous-mathites-tou-
c) Is it in your view a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking" to point out to a speech given by Mr. Tsipras on 24/04/2013 at the American-Hellenic Chamber of Commerce (link to the official transcript provided by the official SYRIZA press office http://bit.ly/17AWFdh) where he said: "Surrendering to Ms. Merkel's strategy creates the conditions for the economic colonization of the country". Is a journalist who simply asks Mr. Tsipras what he meant by that statement "yellow press"?
5. Regarding my fifth and last question that led Mr. Tsipras to break off the interview. The question was: "In June 2012 you said Pasok / ND "lowered the Greek flag and surrendered it to Angela Merkel". Could you elaborate on what that means? Mr. Tsipras first said he "cannot remember" whether he said the sentence about the lowered flag surrendered to Angela Merkel by Pasok and ND, and later claimed he "never" said that. Then he ended the interview telling me I have ill intentions and am "not kind". Would you please comment:
a ) Is the enclosed link of the main campaign speech of Mr. Tsipras on Omonia square on June 14th, 2012, where he utters exactly the sentence (see timestamp 15.04) which I quoted in the interview and which lead to the break off of the interview, in your eyes a falsification?
b) Is a journalist who relies on the website of Syriza to prepare his questions guilty of using „rumours, statements of third persons and information taken without double-checking", considering that according to the website of Syriza he indeed uttered the sentence which he claimed never to have uttered? (please check link or the screenshot attached)
http://www.syriza.gr/ομιλία-του-αλέξη-τσίπρα-στην-κεντρική/
As you will have noticed, I did not criticise Mr. Tsipras, neither did I dare to judge him for his statements. I simply quoted him and asked him to explain what he meant by Pasok and Nea Dimokratia "surrendering the Greek flag to Angela Merkel". I believe a journalist has the right to ask those questions and should ask them. I also do not have a problem with the fact that Mr. Tsipras broke off the interview because he did not like my questions. Mr. Tsipras is not obliged to grant me an interview and he of course may decide at any point to end a conversation with me if he finds the questions "not suitable the the leader of the Greek opposition", as you told me.
However, does confronting him with some of the sentences he said and asking him to explain their meaning, make me "yellow press journalist" going "way beyond the journalistic working ethics"? That seems a little far-fetched, to put it mildly. If Mr, Tsipras, confronted with his own quotes, calls me "unethical", that might indeed say more about him then about me.
I am looking forward to your comments as they will be for sure an important enrichment of our story on Sunday. I also attach my original list of questions from FAZ to Mr. Tsipras. Even though you term them "yellow press", I´d be very grateful if Mr. Tsipras, as promised in the letter to the editor of FAZ, could answer them in written form.
I thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Best regards from Istanbul,
Michael Martens
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
Büro Istanbul / Istanbul office
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung GmbH
Hellerhofstraße 2-4 · 60327 Frankfurt am Main
HRB 7344 . Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Karl Dietrich Seikel
Geschäftsführung: Tobias Trevisan (Sprecher), Dr. Roland Gerschermann
Πηγή: TheInsider
Σύμφωνα με τον Μάρτινς η ερώτηση που προκάλεσε την οργή Τσίπρα και οδήγησε στον άτακτο τερματισμό της συνέντευξης ήταν η εξής:
"Τον Ιούνιο του 2012 είπατε ότι το ΠΑΣΟΚ και η ΝΔ υπέστειλαν την ελληνική σημαία και την παρέδωσαν στην Άνγκελα Μέρκελ. Μπορείτε να μας πείτε τί σημαίνει αυτό;".
Σύμφωνα πάντα με την επιστολή του Μάρτινς, ο κ. Τσίπρας απάντησε ότι δεν μπορεί να θυμηθεί αν έκανε τέτοια δήλωση, μετά ισχυρίστηκε ότι "ποτέ" δεν είπε κάτι τέτοιο και μετά τελείωσε τη συνέντευξη, λέγοντάς του ότι οι προθέσεις του δεν ήταν υγιείς και πως δεν είναι ευγενικός.
Στην επιστολή του ο δημοσιογράφος προσθέτει το λινκ με το βίντεο όπου φαίνεται ο κ. Τσίπρας να κάνει όντως τη δήλωση περί σημαίας: (στο 15'03")
Ο γερμανός δημοσιογράφος τονίζει στην επιστολή του ότι στηρίχτηκε στο site του ΣΥΡΙΖΑ για να υποβάλλει τις ερωτήσεις στον κ. Τσίπρα και αντικρούει όσα του καταλογίζει το κόμμα της αξιωματικής αντιπολίτευσης για χρήση "φημών, δηλώσεων τρίτων προσώπων και ανεπιβεβαίωτων πληροφοριών".
Αυγή: Ενόχλησε το αλαζονικό ύφος
Δημοσίευμα στην Αυγή δέινει την απάντηση της Κουμουνδούρου για το επεισόδιο με τον Μάρτινς. Όπως σημειώνει η εφημερίδα αυτό ποιυ ενόχλησε τον κ. Τσίπρα δεν ήταν οι ερωτήσεις αλλά το ιταμό και αλαζονικό ύφος του δημοσιογράφου της FAΖ.
Ο κ. Μάρτενς μάλιστα έφτασε να χαρακτηρίσει "φασιστικό κόμμα" τους Ανεξάρτητους Έλληνες.
Μετά τη διακοπή της συνέντευξης, ο ίδιος έστειλε απολογητικό μέιλ και ζήτησε από τον Τσίπρα να απαντήσει στις ερωτήσεις του. Η άρνηση του αρχηγού της αξιωματικής αντιπολίτευσης δεν ήταν φυσικά κάποιο πείσμα, αλλά θέμα στοιχειώδους αυτοσεβασμού και σεβασμού του θεσμικού του ρόλου.
Αν οι Γερμανοί δημοσιογράφοι έχουν μάθει να φέρονται έτσι στους ψοφοδεείς μνημονιακούς που μας κυβερνούν, πρέπει να μάθουν ότι αυτά στον ΣΥΡΙΖΑ δεν περνάνε, σημειώνει η Αυγή η οποία μάλιστα δημοσιεύει και ένα βίντεο-απόσπασμα τοποθέτησης του κ. Μάρτινς σε εκδήλωση του Ινστιτούτου Καραμανλή, πέρυσι τον Ιούνιο.
Στο απόσπασμα ο κ. Μάρτενς αναφέρει: "(...) αν ρωτήσεις 5 οικονομολόγους θα έχεις έξι απόψεις και πάντα θα βρεις έναν οικονομολόγο να παρουσιάσει ως εύλογο οτιδήποτε, ακόμα και ο κ. Τσίπρας πιθανότητα θα βρει ακαδημαϊκούς που θα βρουν τις ιδέες του λογικές, ίσως όχι στην Ευρώπη, αλλά στο πανεπιστήμιο της Αβάνας ή της Πιονγκ Γιανγκ, θα βρει ανθρώπους που πιστεύουν ότι έχει μια λογική οικονομική πολιτική".
Ολόκληρη η επιστολή Μάρτινς
Istanbul, July 25th 2013
Dear Mr. Tsipras, Dear Mrs. Badogianni,
I hope this message finds you well. I have seen that "Avgi" has published their version of the "interview" between FAZ and Mr. Tsipras. We will publish our interpretation of the events in our Sunday's edition and in some additional stories to follow in the days after it.
As you, Mrs. Badogianni, will play a role as well in the story – first with your telephone interventions after the interview and then with the letter you emailed to my editor today, which he immediately forwarded to me - I wanted to ask you whether you want to comment on your version of the events.
I have prepared some questions which you may answer on the record if you wish so.
Since Syriza decided to leak their version of the events to "Avgi", I take the liberty to add some Greek and German friends and colleagues who might be interested in the case as Bcc in this Email.
1. After the interview, you called journalists from "Kathimerini" and myself, asking me whether I met Mr. Papachelas or any other colleague from "Kathimerini" to prepare my questions. Even though it is none of your business whom I meet to prepare an interview, I assured you several times that I never in my life met Mr. Papachelas. Then you asked me: "Are you sure you did not meet with any other colleague from Kathimerini?" So my first question is: Do you find it normal that the person in charge of press affairs of the opposition leader in an EU member state, after an interview that was broken off by the interviewee, is calling journalists and urges them to reveal whom they have or have not met before the interview?
2. More precisely: Do you consider it normal that you call a foreign correspondent to interrogate him about whom he spoke with to prepare his questions?
3. Do you consider it normal that you, as press attaché of the leader of the Greek opposition, ask Greek journalists whether they spoke to a foreign journalist before an interview with Mr. Tsipras?
4. Regarding your Email to the editor of "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" from today (July 24th) which you titled: „Written complaint on behalf of Alexis Tsipras concerning the broken off interview with FAZ on 19.07.2013". In this Email you, in the name of Mr. Tsipras, claim that I went "way beyond the journalistic working ethics" and used „rumours, statements of third persons and information taken without double-checking" as a basis for my questions and thus was unprofessional and even on the level of "yellow press" ("Klatschpresse").
You probably understand, that those are serious allegations against a journalist who depends on his reputation. So I would be very grateful if, regarding these allegations, you would be so kind as to answer my following questions:
a) Is the cartoon of Adolf Hitler calling Angela Merkel (published in "Avgi", on April 14th) to which I refereed in my first and second question of the interview a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking"?
b) In my third question I asked whether Mr. Tsipras believes that all the talk about today's Germany being the "fourth Reich", wanting to "colonize" Greece etc. is really the kind of language that European leaders in 2013 should use. To this, Mr. Tsipras answered that "neither Syriza nor Avgi" have ever uttered those kinds of statements. Is it in your view a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking" to point out – as one example of many – to an article by "Avgi" dated 20.07.2013 with the title "Gauleiter Schauble supports his students..." (author Dimitris Stoumbos, link) below http://www.avgi.gr/article/653893/o-gkaoulaiter-soimple-stirizei-tous-mathites-tou-
c) Is it in your view a "rumour, a statement of a third person or an information taken without double-checking" to point out to a speech given by Mr. Tsipras on 24/04/2013 at the American-Hellenic Chamber of Commerce (link to the official transcript provided by the official SYRIZA press office http://bit.ly/17AWFdh) where he said: "Surrendering to Ms. Merkel's strategy creates the conditions for the economic colonization of the country". Is a journalist who simply asks Mr. Tsipras what he meant by that statement "yellow press"?
5. Regarding my fifth and last question that led Mr. Tsipras to break off the interview. The question was: "In June 2012 you said Pasok / ND "lowered the Greek flag and surrendered it to Angela Merkel". Could you elaborate on what that means? Mr. Tsipras first said he "cannot remember" whether he said the sentence about the lowered flag surrendered to Angela Merkel by Pasok and ND, and later claimed he "never" said that. Then he ended the interview telling me I have ill intentions and am "not kind". Would you please comment:
a ) Is the enclosed link of the main campaign speech of Mr. Tsipras on Omonia square on June 14th, 2012, where he utters exactly the sentence (see timestamp 15.04) which I quoted in the interview and which lead to the break off of the interview, in your eyes a falsification?
b) Is a journalist who relies on the website of Syriza to prepare his questions guilty of using „rumours, statements of third persons and information taken without double-checking", considering that according to the website of Syriza he indeed uttered the sentence which he claimed never to have uttered? (please check link or the screenshot attached)
http://www.syriza.gr/ομιλία-του-αλέξη-τσίπρα-στην-κεντρική/
As you will have noticed, I did not criticise Mr. Tsipras, neither did I dare to judge him for his statements. I simply quoted him and asked him to explain what he meant by Pasok and Nea Dimokratia "surrendering the Greek flag to Angela Merkel". I believe a journalist has the right to ask those questions and should ask them. I also do not have a problem with the fact that Mr. Tsipras broke off the interview because he did not like my questions. Mr. Tsipras is not obliged to grant me an interview and he of course may decide at any point to end a conversation with me if he finds the questions "not suitable the the leader of the Greek opposition", as you told me.
However, does confronting him with some of the sentences he said and asking him to explain their meaning, make me "yellow press journalist" going "way beyond the journalistic working ethics"? That seems a little far-fetched, to put it mildly. If Mr, Tsipras, confronted with his own quotes, calls me "unethical", that might indeed say more about him then about me.
I am looking forward to your comments as they will be for sure an important enrichment of our story on Sunday. I also attach my original list of questions from FAZ to Mr. Tsipras. Even though you term them "yellow press", I´d be very grateful if Mr. Tsipras, as promised in the letter to the editor of FAZ, could answer them in written form.
I thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Best regards from Istanbul,
Michael Martens
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
Büro Istanbul / Istanbul office
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung GmbH
Hellerhofstraße 2-4 · 60327 Frankfurt am Main
HRB 7344 . Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Karl Dietrich Seikel
Geschäftsführung: Tobias Trevisan (Sprecher), Dr. Roland Gerschermann
Πηγή: TheInsider
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